tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post2926716144389474489..comments2023-10-10T01:13:23.885+11:00Comments on Mango the Raw Vegan Fruitarian: I'm allergic to Calories.Fruitarian Mangohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02769115272900669567noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-82533621641519934672013-06-24T09:12:10.793+10:002013-06-24T09:12:10.793+10:00Hi Kenneth, thanks for the feedback. I suspect the...Hi Kenneth, thanks for the feedback. I suspect the reason why Freelea never replied again, was because I pointed out that she said to me "you can't sell fruitarianism". We are just on a different page is all, and calories and the rest of it is something she has a vested interest in.Fruitarian Mangohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02769115272900669567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-3787103498960830342013-06-23T20:27:42.373+10:002013-06-23T20:27:42.373+10:00How come freelee did not come back with anything. ...How come freelee did not come back with anything. I think mangos arguement was sound. And he came back with explanations to freelees comments. Freelee did not come back with anything when she probably read the comments after what she wrote. Hmmm.. Makes me think about them two. They seem too aggressive although there message is good. However so is mangos. I would like to see you guys debate This topic for a while through YouTube or something. Thank you mango. You have been an inspiration for me. You Michael arnatein freelee and Harley. Peace Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07464820228128058662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-70957692715877552342011-03-04T12:22:21.320+11:002011-03-04T12:22:21.320+11:0030 bad'nanas hahaha :)
It's no surprise th...30 bad'nanas hahaha :)<br />It's no surprise that Freelee didn't answer back, she reasonably lost the debate.<br /><br />I really appreciate your blog mango, it's the best! And thanks for reading my post. :)<br /><br />I feel so free these days as I finally embarked onto 100% fruitarianism, it feels like I don't need to worry about diet anymore after almost two years of transitioning from a SAD diet. It was rought the first two weeks last February leaving all greens and veggies behind - I was addicted to some degree! And I didn't expect so much detox and cravings - cravings not only for greens/veggies but then later WAY stronger for cooked foods (pizza/pasta/french fries/...) which I didn't expect and which were even stronger than when I first went raw a year ago or when I went vegetarian/vegan for meat and cheese 18 months ago. The detox is still occuring right now to a deep degree everywhere in my body, and now my eyes are starting to be so beautiful! My skin glows even more! My joints are starting to feel so light, and I feel like exercising is becoming more and more painless and satisfying... I'm so happy! :)Jérôme François Falcon-Guayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03718741582400020194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-79263303055943511802011-03-04T11:58:12.519+11:002011-03-04T11:58:12.519+11:00@Michele, cool for the interview.. My criteria ar...@Michele, cool for the interview.. My criteria are that 1. you believe in and are practicing 100% fresh raw fruit fruitarianism, ie, nothing but fruit.. no nuts, greens, sprouts, supplements, condiments etc etc. OR 2. you believe in 100% fruit fruitarianism, and have serious intention of eating purely fruit and foresee that as a definite happening in the (not too distant) future. Just send me an email, and we'll be in touch. (use the form on my <a href="http://www.fruitnut.net" rel="nofollow">fruitnut</a> website).<br /><br />@SuperAstro, great you enjoyed it.. I was a little disappointed that Freelee gave up so easily in the debate she began. Hey.. I recently read your post about being banned from 30 bad 'nanas, well said!<br /><br />thanks all for your support!Fruitarian Mangohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02769115272900669567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-19163151566745904692011-02-28T13:08:46.391+11:002011-02-28T13:08:46.391+11:00I love that post! :)I love that post! :)Jérôme François Falcon-Guayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03718741582400020194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-46708822256204374192010-11-05T03:28:16.998+11:002010-11-05T03:28:16.998+11:00Mango, I'd be happy to do an interview...
love...Mango, I'd be happy to do an interview...<br />love, Michele*Chickiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01122574745181661195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-11962580630573744202010-11-04T10:35:49.767+11:002010-11-04T10:35:49.767+11:00Hi all, so nice to see that the majority of visito...Hi all, so nice to see that the majority of visitors that leave comments get where i'm coming from.. <br /><br />@fruitlover, i understand your anxiety, i believe at best nutritional pseudoscience is incomplete, and at worse, I would say outright misleading, with it's reduction of foods to a level of complexity that makes eating a fearful business seemingly in need of much vast self education.<br /><br />@itrustmybody, nice to hear! go for it!<br /><br />@jules, thanks! I agree.. I think we're all doing what we believe is best, even the scientists amongst us.. Who knows, maybe even, I concede, there are likely to be a vast number of people out there that fully believe that they need that side of it, so it's good, i guess, that there are those that can lead them through that path. too. My aim is just to show that ultimately the truth really is simple and doesn't require additional complications.. I believe there are people ready, willing, keen and needing to hear that side of things too! <br /><br />@MrZed, yes.. may we all find peace! I succeed sometimes, but it's sometimes easy for us all to forget and lapse back into a state of conflict with our surroundings. When I'm clear, it's all good.. Once confusion enters the picture, we all tend to be on the defensive.<br /><br />@electricmel, nice to hear it! thankyou so much!<br /><br />@MicheleZ, thank you for your comment, that's a great reply and so true on many levels. If you yourself believe in 100% raw fresh fruit and are doing it already, or plan to, don't hesitate to contact me for an interview if you're up for it! (same goes for you Jules when you're ready!)<br /><br />@Janus, hi again! and thanks for sharing your thoughts. It's always good to be reminded that there's a spiritual side to things too, and I think we could all do with letting the spirit more into our lives at all levels.<br /><br />@Ellen, haha! 30 bad bananas! like it.. i'm sure they're a good bunch really though, and mean well with where they are coming from, as do we all. i hope. i'm so pleased to hear that you and your hubby are doing so well with raw fruit! excellent news! keep it up.<br /><br />@Anonimo, rotten fruit has plenty of taste, just not good ones. Yuck.. beware of it!Fruitarian Mangohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02769115272900669567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-65806767078752271582010-11-04T03:38:46.447+11:002010-11-04T03:38:46.447+11:00"it would of course taste rotten to us compar..."it would of course taste rotten to us compared to fruit"<br />Haha, actually rotten fruit doesnt have any taste at all.Anônimo Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07722473867488454333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-60735331919490544792010-10-31T04:43:17.317+11:002010-10-31T04:43:17.317+11:00"Yeah, maybe the body starts storing fat beca..."Yeah, maybe the body starts storing fat because it thinks "man if i am getting this stuff i may be starving soon", on a non fruit (non food) diet."<br /><br />Nail on the head hit. Humans resorted to eating fats and animals when they were about to starve. <br /><br />I think it also says: "man this stuff sucks, I'm going to have to eat a lot of it to not be malnourished". Of course, with modern meat, it doesn't matter how much of it you eat... you will still be malnourished... if it was organic, raw meat it would be much better for us - it would of course taste rotten to us compared to fruit as fruit is the food of choice for Humans and all the other great apes, and you would know times were REALLY bad if you had to start eating it, but at least it would be of decent nutritional value.Mr. Zedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00723162939508521603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-46268753042927791872010-10-30T14:45:31.477+11:002010-10-30T14:45:31.477+11:00Yeah, maybe the body starts storing fat because it...Yeah, maybe the body starts storing fat because it thinks "man if i am getting this stuff i may be starving soon", on a non fruit (non food) diet.Anônimo Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07722473867488454333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-11899263297294242922010-10-29T08:49:17.056+11:002010-10-29T08:49:17.056+11:00Hi Freelee, we haven't met mango, but I can sa...Hi Freelee, we haven't met mango, but I can say that he has been the biggest voice of reasoning toward me and my hubby going raw and now eating most days only fruit. We also sometimes read the 30 bad bananas forum, but haven't joined because neither of us like the way you ban anyone that questions your philosophy. i think mango is spot on about calories, and in his reply to you.Ellen Holmeshttp://rawatholme.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-26080522483678014382010-10-27T06:48:48.106+11:002010-10-27T06:48:48.106+11:00Wam bam kapoweee Michele! Well said.
It's all...Wam bam kapoweee Michele! Well said.<br /><br />It's all about following what our bodies tell us.. now following what our minds tell us sometimes could be dangerous especially when it is telling us to follow others "good example " and then somewhere along the line we get lost, frustrated, and then we get that familiar good idea of " Why don't I start over and find what works best for ME and my body and what makes me happy being just me" <br /><br />I think there is nothing wrong with what Freelee and Durian rider is doing ( And if they make the extra buck why not! ) But still I would rather believe everyone will eventually find true happiness in themselves and realize that it is about a lifestyle change and one better eat and play the way our hearts want and not the way that is popular or looks good or sell like hot bananas..<br /><br />Most importantly firstly find Jesus ( God ) and He will give as He is giving already to all of us true peace true joy and true meaning in life.<br /><br />But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.<br />Matt 6:33<br /><br />Jesus is soon coming back to get us His children and then we won't compare or disagree or differ as we will all just be dazzled with every blissful moment, eating fruits and tasting flavors we cannot imagine now, thanking and loving each other and God every moment we life in eternity with the One who has given His life to save all of us.<br /><br />I love you all as brothers and sisters and I pray that we all will be in heaven so that we can share more words and love.<br /><br />Fruity loops over and out.<br /><br />JanusJGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16522564970442950285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-44368728698959880552010-10-27T06:21:26.091+11:002010-10-27T06:21:26.091+11:00I don't understand the idea that Mango should ...I don't understand the idea that Mango should be speaking more "objectively" than subjectively.<br />All he can really speak about is his own experience, and that's really all I want to read about. <br />He's not giving advice, he's sharing experience. <br />I don't want objective advice/methods that are objective guesses because that's all they really are. <br />everyone's process, mind, comforts, bodies etc. are at a different place. How could anyone tell me better than me what my body is saying?<br /><br />I do not stuff myself full of calories, although I once did, thinking that it was the only raw way to go, which actually was going against what my body was screaming at me. what it needed was less.<br /><br />I am at year 5 1/2 with fruit, and have not gone back to meat or dairy. it just does not seem to be true across the board for everyone that you HAVE to eat millions of calories or fail. I would've quit if I kept shoving it in beyond capacity. <br />It seems from here, that there are several long term fruit eaters that only eat what they want and don't get anywhere near the 2000 calorie/day mark, and are healthy, comfortable with themselves and what works for them, and do not go back to cooked food.<br /><br />I also don't think it's true that people are so far removed from their instincts. something brought them to fruit.<br />i guess I just don't like the idea that anyone is dependent on someone else's ideas/methods. <br />It can set up a distrust in one's own body. "Oh no, I've done so much damage that I can't possibly know what I need. That person knows more about my body."<br />Human instinct seems much more reliable than the human mind trying to control anything.<br />At some point, I had to drop listening elsewhere, because by always following advice, I was actually going AGAINST my instincts. <br /><br />Just because Mango doesn't train/assist people as a business, doesn't really say anything about him being able to write down his own thoughts and live a lifestyle that works for him. <br />I've made a living as a musician in NYC for 10 years, but I would not choose to teach about it, or lead someone, or be paid for it. Not to say it's right or wrong, I just don't really feel I know anything about anyone else's process.<br />Does this mean I can't write about my experience? If people choose to read, that's their choice. <br />I can't recall a time actually where Mango ever said or implied "This is what you have to do." <br />that's not what this blog is, and that's why I read it. <br /><br />I also don't think you can really say someone is longterm successful at this, unless they've hit at least the 10 year mark. <br />I don't think it's this complicated. Even a two year old somehow knows it. <br />I'm not saying that high calorie/high intensity training doesn't work and isn't helpful for many people. It seems to be. <br />Just that it's not the only way, and I am appreciative there is a place to read where no one's telling me there's one way to do it happily and successfully.Chickiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01122574745181661195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-84399132820884842402010-10-27T04:35:49.690+11:002010-10-27T04:35:49.690+11:00Great post Mango! I am on board!
I'm not 100%...Great post Mango! I am on board!<br /><br />I'm not 100% fruitarian but I know that fruit makes me feel good - and the more I eat the better I feel. Calories be damned!<br /><br />Seriously though - you are quite an inspiration to me and, I feel confident in saying, many others.electricmelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17327161898028222465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-44452554376897909122010-10-27T03:50:01.847+11:002010-10-27T03:50:01.847+11:00Fruitlover, to be fair buying fruit in bulk can be...Fruitlover, to be fair buying fruit in bulk can be a good idea just so long as you eat it on time. I don't know about having a specific room for it.<br /><br />Something rubs me up the wrong way about Freelee and that whole site. When I first replied I didn't even bother reading all of her post here because I don't find what she says worth listening to (I read all the other comments), but I find it amazing even for her that out of nothing she tried to start up a flame war and used words such as "dangerous" etc. DANGEROUS. And the argument about the amount of people Mango has converted to fruitarianism is just pathetic.<br /><br />I hope Freelee and the others on that site can find peace in themselves and with others. I don't know what has caused this, maybe she is having difficulty keeping to the diet long-term herself.<br /><br />I don't like how Freelee comes in first with compliments, compliments, positive remarks and then makes these wild remarks and asks a question she knows the answer to, she knows that Mango hasn't "converted" people to fruitarianism. So why does she ask it when she knows the answer? Hypocrisy, contradiction, underhand tactics... I think they are the scourge of the world and hurtful in ways that we cannot all yet foresee, just like how artificial foods are hurtful in ways we can't yet foresee.<br /><br />I really like your name "I Trust My Body". :)Mr. Zedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00723162939508521603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-82089753457627574612010-10-27T03:48:03.329+11:002010-10-27T03:48:03.329+11:00Dear Mango . . .
Once again, you are the voice o...Dear Mango . . . <br /><br />Once again, you are the voice of reason. Thank you for this intelligent writing. As usual, I'm in total agreement.<br /><br />Great post, fruit bro, and BRILLIANT video! I really did laugh out loud. Super funny and clever! Love it!<br /><br />I have to say that I love and support all folks who are out espousing the vegan/fruitarian lifestyle. It's true that we do seem to differ on some details, but I see that everyone has a place and a purpose. We are all doing important work in the world, each in our own way. Thank you all for caring about the animals and all beings.<br /><br />I love all of you fruity peeps! ♥<br /><br />Love,<br />JulieFruity Juleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09777979865620099684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-21736451331284978152010-10-26T21:07:58.790+11:002010-10-26T21:07:58.790+11:00Your comments about avocados are very interesting....Your comments about avocados are very interesting. I've always liked avocados, but I've recently eaten very few of them. I'll have to buy some during my next grocery shopping trip.jimpurdy1943@yahoo.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12974301744118775363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-15979167757071133272010-10-26T18:01:11.503+11:002010-10-26T18:01:11.503+11:00Lol very, very funny.
YesiLol very, very funny. <br />YesiUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13292804165458751255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-1432648233441776952010-10-26T12:24:50.109+11:002010-10-26T12:24:50.109+11:00Hi Mango!
I love reading your blog. This entry wa...Hi Mango!<br /><br />I love reading your blog. This entry was like a breath of fresh air! Eating fruit is simple and easy and we don't need to think about the science behind every calorie. Do we thing about every O2 molecule when we breath? <br />When I read sites like 30BaD, I get stressed out because they make eating this was seem so difficult! Like, you have to go buy tons of fruit in bulk and build an extra room just to store it in and get an extra job so you can afford all of the fruit you're going to need just to survive. blah! <br />Thank you for reminding us that eating this way is simple, a pleasure and wonderful!FruitLoverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03288233715476302252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-57853717873528381962010-10-26T09:23:55.187+11:002010-10-26T09:23:55.187+11:00Hi Mr. Zed,
hmm.. no aging at all? maybe.. i'm...Hi Mr. Zed,<br />hmm.. no aging at all? maybe.. i'm not going to start setting theoretical limitations. but isn't growing up part of the aging process too.. anyhow.. whether or not aging can ultimately be prevented through an ultimate diet and lifestyle, I am sure that it can be at least slowed gracefully, and real old ages still in health and fitness reached. can't say i've ever heard of the hayflick limit.. i'll be checking that out shortly..<br />peace,<br />mango.Fruitarian Mangohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02769115272900669567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-79045828912006329802010-10-26T09:16:40.871+11:002010-10-26T09:16:40.871+11:00@Mark,
that is really the whole point of the simpl...@Mark,<br />that is really the whole point of the simplicity of fruitarianism. Everyone's needs are different at every given point in time. which is why i state again, if you eat just fruit, and whatever appeals at the moment, then that is the correct meal for you. You don't need to buy someone to give you a recipe plan for the week. you just need the knowledge and courage to follow your true instincts.<br /><br />peace,<br />mango.Fruitarian Mangohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02769115272900669567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-32331113952590460492010-10-26T09:09:31.197+11:002010-10-26T09:09:31.197+11:00Amit.. well said! I certainly don't feel like ...Amit.. well said! I certainly don't feel like a robot!Fruitarian Mangohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02769115272900669567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-76099916075846498582010-10-26T09:08:28.309+11:002010-10-26T09:08:28.309+11:00hi Janus,
haha, looks like you are giving it 110%!...hi Janus,<br />haha, looks like you are giving it 110%! (unless of course the salads are a subset of the fruit, so there's some overlap?)<br /><br />simplicity has to be the way to go. Instead of calorie counting, i say, chew more, bless your food, don't be in such a rush, enjoy each mouthful for the flavour of joyous fruit.<br /><br />good luck on your path Janus!<br />peace,<br />mango.Fruitarian Mangohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02769115272900669567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-82738211207259625162010-10-26T09:01:56.099+11:002010-10-26T09:01:56.099+11:00Hi Jules,
thanks for getting it! true.. fruits are...Hi Jules,<br />thanks for getting it! true.. fruits are truly gods intended gift of food.<br />peace and nice to see you blogging still!<br />mango.Fruitarian Mangohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02769115272900669567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36582097.post-1162916524500869942010-10-26T08:58:21.984+11:002010-10-26T08:58:21.984+11:00hi freelee!
aha.. i like systematic questions that...hi freelee!<br />aha.. i like systematic questions that can be answered one by one..<br /><br />1. eating what you want..<br /><br />You seemed to have approached that subject without bearing in mind that I wrote <i>100% fruit</i> too, remove that from the equation, and i'm in complete agreement that people are at a loss. So I am not just saying people should eat what they want, when they want, etc, but very much meaning to state within the boundaries of 100% raw fresh fruit.<br /><br />2. eating only when you want.<br /><br />I don't mean they should eat once a day, and do so even when desire for food is otherwise present. I mean people should just eat when they are hungry. If they happen to only be hungry once a day, then I'm all for it. naught wrong with that in my eyes.<br /><br />3. eating only when hungry.<br /><br />ok, of course i mean here that people have to understand what hunger is and when it is present. but if they do, and they don't feel hungry, then i believe it is folly to eat.. if they are coming off some kind of eating disorder, I can concede that in certain rare cases, recognising hunger may be difficult.<br /><br />4. don't eat or drink for tomorrow.<br /><br />that analogy you quote about mangoes is in my opinion not really relevant. I'm not proposing one doesn't eat or drink! Just do it for the moment, and let the future take care of itself. To me, thinking oh, tomorrow is a big day, so I have to eat twice as much, is erroneous.. It taxes the system unnecessarily, as does likely the possibly theoretically excessive big day "coming up".<br /><br />5. Don't plan for fitness goals(?)<br /><br />Who said anything about fitness goals? go for them if you have them, but don't impose them on others that don't see a need. Personally, I'd rather just go swimming leisurely do a spot of gardening, take the occasional bike ride maybe, but not with intent of being faster at it than yesterday, but rather because it's a fun way to spend time.<br /><br />6. Calories (again).<br /><br />ok.. a calorie is the amount of heat it takes to raise one gram of water 1 degree Celsius. in the past, the calorie was used in the engineering field, where it's usage probably made much more sense. I don't eat heat. Calorie content of foods is scientifically calculated by totally killing the food with heat first. Seriously I have never seen a calorie, so how can I recommend people to eat them? and how can you seriously think it dangerous if i don't occupy myself and others with them?<br /><br />7. 100% fruitarianism.<br /><br />Jules is right, simplicity doesn't sell, and I recall you telling me the exact same thing yourself at fruitopia. You basically agreed at some level to the simplicity of fruitarianism, but stated clearly also that it was not something that could be sold. And that's true. I could tell you everything you really need to know about diet in 10 or so easy to understand paragraphs and be basically done with it.<br /><br />8. how many people have i assisted toward fruitarianism that stay there?<br /><br />honestly freelee, i have no idea, i opened my website in the year 2000, i ran a forum for a couple of years, my blog started in 2003 or 2004, I've had countless people write me emails thanking me for making sense to them, almost as many comments to the same effect, not to mention positive feedback in my guestbook and the people i've met en route that have been touched by the idea.. I don't actively keep in touch with that many people, so I have no idea how many people are able to stick with fruitarianism. but let's suppose there were zero people, are you perhaps implying that you believe that my words have no value until I've started up my own mentoring business? For the record, there have been times when i've gone out of my way giving away free advise to people seeking the beliefs i have, and i like to think i have been at least somewhat of a positive influence.<br /><br />Glad you found the video funny, did you pick up on the kath and kim-ism?<br />peace,<br />mango.Fruitarian Mangohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02769115272900669567noreply@blogger.com